Daniel wants to make an audio only subscription feed for his subscribers. Leo says that Spreaker is one option. They have a subscription plan that will lock out people if they don't pay. He can also roll in ads.
Cleeng enables him to sell video live and on demand. He can put in a static picture or a slide show type video feed with it. But there's really no stopping people from giving away content they download, which is why Leo doesn't charge. He has the content for free. He can then insert ads to make up for the shortfall. Spreaker is the best option for Daniel.